Employer Incentives and Change of Employer

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  • Ruth CJ
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    Hello,

    What happens with incentives if an apprentice switches to a new employer when they have less than a year to go until their PED?

    Both the 16-18 incentive and the new apprentice incentive are triggered at 90 and 365 days. What if the apprentice completes before they hit 365 days with that employer? Do they just not get the second payment, or does it get triggered when they complete?

    Is there any official guidance on this? Employers are being actively encouraged to take apprentices who’ve been made redundant, and the new apprentice incentive page says “You can also apply for the payment if you recruit apprentices who have been made redundant, as long as they’re new to your organisation and they were hired between 1 August 2020 and 31 January 2021”.

     
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    Martin West
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    Hi Ruth,
    I think it’s a NO.
    Apprentices who’ve been made redundant are eligible as long as they’re a new employee to your organisation. To get the second instalment the apprentice must have at least one year (356 days) of training left to complete.

    See: https://help.apprenticeships.education.gov.uk/hc/en-gb/articles/360015391139-Incentive-payments-for-hiring-a-new-apprentice?utm_source=ma&utm_medium=lp&utm_campaign=AS-072020-Employer-Incentives&utm_content=email1&esfa_tok=23477309
    HTH

     
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    Ruth CJ
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    Ah yes! Thank you;

    “The apprentice will need to be in employment and undertaking their apprenticeship at these times as evidenced in the Individualised Learner Record”.

    It would be nice if they included that statement in all the guidance.

     
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    GaynorLFT
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    Just to add

    For the 16-18 incentive

    We have had learners switch employers after the 90 day payment but before the 365 day and the new employer have been paid the 365 day payment. These learners were not redundant – just changed employers. This incentive follows the apprentice, so if they switched after 365 days the new employer would not receive any of the 16-18 incentive.

    Hope that helps

     
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    Ruth CJ
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    That makes sense for the 16-18 incentive. I don’t think the new apprentice one could work like that, as it’s applied for on the DAS. Also, in our particular case, the new employer didn’t do the reservation when they should have in Sep, and have done it in Nov. We’ve had to withdraw the apprentice as of when they left the first employer, and start again in November. They removed the rule about the minimum duration for restarts when it wasn’t a proper BIL, so we can do that. The start date is now Nov 2020, it’s flagged as a Restart, but with no Original Start Date.

     
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