Before I start using these I wanted to ask the forum about how you are interpreting and using these codes especially in relation to Funding Models 10 and 35?
NEW LDM 368 – COVID-19 temporary or permanent withdrawals – To identify learners who have left their programme without achieving due to COVID-19, including those who are being supported by the provider so they can return when it is safe to do so
NEW LDM 369 – COVID-19 new programme starts – To identify learners when they start a programme implemented by the provider in response to CV19, with support to ensure they start in learning when it is safe to do soMay 22, 2020 at 2:56 pm #445795
Was on a call with ILR people the other day and these LDM codes are ONLY to be used for providers receiving Provider Relief Support. I asked if they could update the descriptors to make this clear!
May 22, 2020 at 2:59 pm #445797
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Thanks for a prompt response, saved be a lot of bother. Happy Holidays, “STAY ALERT”May 22, 2020 at 3:38 pm #445804
WMCA, I understand, will be using these codes.
Paul.May 22, 2020 at 10:07 pm #445839
Thanks, WMCA have confirmed they are working on guidance which will be published in the next couple of daysMay 26, 2020 at 11:39 am #446455
I believe these codes are only to be used by those who have claimed supplier relief funding as stated by Steve.May 26, 2020 at 11:47 am #446457
I think part of the reason they were so loosely worded in the first place was because there was a feeling that CA’s might want to use them too, so not surprised to hear WMCA might be looking at them…
Broader answer I think is “don’t use them unless/until you’re explicitly told to”?
May 26, 2020 at 1:27 pm #446487
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Could someone indicate to me where these new codes were published? I am unable to find anything…June 1, 2020 at 10:32 am #447142
third document down here:
no published guidance on their use yet that I’ve seen?June 1, 2020 at 10:39 am #447144
I’ve been trying to update our ILR’s with the Monitoring codes as required but I seem to be having issues with one particular learner who was already recorded as being on a Break In Learning. When I try to add the 368 code it isn’t listed yet it is an available option for other learners with the same employer.
Is there a particular reason the code is available for some and not all?June 23, 2020 at 11:55 am #448772
Is it a software issue? Might be worth asking your supplier? They might just not have made it available for BILs?June 23, 2020 at 12:24 pm #448785
It’s OK I’ve just worked it out. It appears to only be available for BIL’s from the date the code was created (21st March).
Thanks for your reply.June 23, 2020 at 12:29 pm #448789
Do we have this anywhere in writing so that I can quote and refer to this please?June 23, 2020 at 3:07 pm #448818
I discovered it by trial and error so nothing official from me sorry.June 23, 2020 at 3:20 pm #448820
All providers that were successful in gaining the Provider Relief Funding were sent a letter in which these Codes were explained, it also stated the start date from which they could be used. If someone was already on a BiL, COVID-19 had nothing to do with that BiL. Please see below:-
COVID-19 temporary or permanent withdrawals
Description To identify learners who have left their programme without achieving due to COVID-19, including those who are being supported by the provider so they can return when it is safe to do so
Valid from 21/03/2020
COVID-19 new programme starts
To identify learners when they start a programme implemented by the provider in response to COVID-19, with support to ensure they can start in learning when it is safe to do so
Valid from 21/03/2020June 23, 2020 at 9:14 pm #448839
so the crux is that if we didn’t receive a letter (due to not being on the provider relief scheme) then we don’t use the codes?June 24, 2020 at 8:23 am #448841
We have introduced two learning delivery monitoring (LDM) codes for training providers funded by ESFA who are in receipt of support through the provider relief scheme (PRS), these codes are valid for use from 21 March 2020.
LDM code 368 should be used if a learner was on a programme funded by us and who is currently unable to continue with their training and education as a direct result of COVID-19. Training providers in receipt of the ESFA provider relief scheme will continue to engage with those learners with a range of activities so they can restart their programme as soon as it is safe to do so.
LDM code 369 should be used to identify those learners whose start date has been delayed by the impact of COVID-19. Training providers in receipt of the provider relief scheme will continue to support those individuals so they are ready to start learning when it is safe to do so. The LDM code will be used when you return the ILR to confirm the learner has now started their programme.
In addition, training providers funded by ESFA who are not in receipt of support from the provider relief scheme should also use these LDM codes where learners have been affected by the impact of COVID-19.June 24, 2020 at 9:01 am #448845
So, it depends what you think the word “should” means…June 24, 2020 at 11:16 am #448864
I am assuming that these codes may be used to exclude from QAR due to COVID and that they should be used where applicable but it is not a must so it is optional.June 24, 2020 at 11:54 am #448877
Hi All, Please Note that the West Midlands Combined Authority (WMCA) has issued guidance on how to use these for all learners affected for funding models 10 & 35.June 24, 2020 at 3:46 pm #448902
Can any help?
Functional skills: the categories for returns to the awarding bodies only allows for a pass/fail/non-submission, therefore, how do we record a non-submission on the ILR return (PICS) as it is neither a pass or a fail.June 29, 2020 at 3:05 pm #449798
When I have questioned this the paragraph below says that you should use the LDM codes so that is what we have used.
In addition, training providers funded by ESFA who are not in receipt of support from the provider relief scheme should also use these LDM codes where learners have been affected by the impact of COVID-19.
So I am not sure we have added the codes for all learners on a BIL.
KirstyJune 29, 2020 at 4:09 pm #449809
@julie18 So what’s happening with these learners? Kind of by definition, if they’re not achieving, they’re going to be fails (because you can’t prove an achievement). Unless you’re continuing to teach them past their planned end date with an eye on putting them in for the tests in the autumn, in which case you’d just leave them as continuing.
@kirsty “should” isn’t “must”, but you’re right that ESFA are expecting us to use it, even though they’re not telling us what the benefits/drawbacks will be…June 30, 2020 at 10:17 am #449888
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