Please can someone confirm that now the final ILR has been signed off are the overall success rates finished and the figure we have now is what it is and it is just timely success which can be affected by the 14/15 r04? Also is the success rate affected by the actual end date not the achievement date (this is just for 13/14)?
Thank youOctober 27, 2014 at 7:09 pm #10194
Only the planned or actual end dates are used in the QSR calculations.
From the rules below the following would be reported in the 2013/14 QSR
For both the overall QSR and the timely QSR the last day of the reporting period for the year from 2013 to 2014 will be 31 July 2014. The hybrid end date for overall QSR and the planned end date for timely QSR must fall within the reporting year to be included in the calculation.
The overall QSR calculation measures the number of learning aims that are successfully achieved at any time. This method is based on the hybrid end date of a learning aim, which is defined as the later of the planned or actual end date.
The timely QSR is the number of learning aims with a planned end date in the reporting period that are successfully achieved on or before their planned end date, or within 90 days thereafter.
Overall – As this uses the hybrid end date 13/14 QSR reporting would include all aims where the later of the planned or actual end date are before 1st August 2014 and any aims with an actual end date after this would be included in subsequent reporting years.
Timely – As this only uses the planned end date 13/14 QSR reporting would include all aims where the planned end date is before 1st August 2014.
Where a learner has a planned end date in the 13/14 QSR reporting year but does not complete until the following year (14/15) they would be excluded from the Overall calculations for the year (13/14) but would be included in the Timely calculations for the year (13/14).
So it can be seen that it is only Overall that could be affected by dates in the 2014/15 ILR but this would be reported in the 14/15 QSR.
This is how I understand it but I stand to be corrected.
HTHOctober 28, 2014 at 8:14 am #10196
Thank you Martin, so when we put extra results in the R04 for learners with expected end dates in 13/14 which are within the 90 days the timely success rate will go up but if these dates are in 14/15 the number of leavers will go down for Overall so this should go up as well?October 28, 2014 at 9:46 am #10202
It is a little confusing and difficult to get your head around but the QSR only deals with planned and actual end dates.
You mention putting extra results in R04 for learners with expected end dates in 13/14 although the data set production guidance does include data from the 14/15 R04 most should have been included in the final 13/14 return.
If this relates to a learner who is carried over into 14/15 either because the actual end date was null or where the end date was in 13/14 but the outcome was 4 or 5 the following would apply.
Where actual end date was null but has been updated at R04
This would be included in the Overall and Timely QSR calculations for 14/15 unless it is a late backdated date in 13/14 where it would be included in the 13/14 QSR calculations.
Where the end date was in 13/14 and the outcome was 4 or 5 but has been updated at R04
If the planned end date was in 13/14 this would be included in the calculations for the Timely QSR for 13/14.
If the planned end date is in 14/15 this would be included in the calculations for the Timely QSR for 14/15.
Because they allow data from R04 14/15 to be included this is the reason why the QSR reports are usually not made available until after R04 14/15 as they may go up or down against that reported at the close of 13/14.October 28, 2014 at 11:27 am #10209
Thank you Martin this makes sense now.October 29, 2014 at 9:21 am #10229
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